RE: Audi S1: Review

Monday 17th March 2014

Audi S1: Review

Hot Audis are famously hit and miss dynamically, so how does the S1 fare?



All journalism should be about objectivity, especially when wittering on about cars. Previous prejudices, personal preferences and brand loyalties have to be cast aside to deliver a reliable verdict on whatever new car lays waiting at the airport car park.

Probably fun here. We didn't get to find out
Probably fun here. We didn't get to find out
But that was always going to be a struggle with the Audi S1 because, to these eyes at least, it looks absolutely marvellous. The wheels are right out in the corners, the (optional) black roof gives the impressions of lowering the car and the black rear panel, a la A1 Quattro, is a great feature. Four exhausts remain wholly unnecessary and rather naff however.

The good news continues inside because the S1 just gets the simple stuff right. The gearknob is just the right size, as is the wheel diameter and thickness. The three (yes three, the S1 is manual and manual only) stainless steel pedals are just where you want them from the off too; perhaps the seat could do with a little more support but that's a minor gripe. Best steer clear of the quattro interior styling package though, which colour codes the transmission tunnel and seat backs with the outside. Garish could be an understatement.

That'll be the improved 'spontaneity' then
That'll be the improved 'spontaneity' then
He's called the Stig
Given the effort Audi had gone to with the S1 launch (actual Stig Blomqvist was there, with road and rally-spec Sport Quattros too), the roads were a bit of a disappointment. Perhaps it was churlish to expect any more from Sweden but the initial 90km from airport to hotel (see it here) revealed very little thanks to strictly enforced speed limits, lots of slush on the roads and vast open corners.

What's immediately apparent though is the S1's speed. It's a seriously quick little car. With only 1hp more than a Golf GTI Performance and, amazingly, another 39kg to carry around, it really shouldn't feel any faster on the road and yet it does. Lag disappears at about 1,800rpm and the S1 is pulling hard from about 2,500. Fairly short gearing only exaggerates the impression. Yes it lacks a bit of top-end ferocity, the power tailing off beyond 6,000rpm, but given the performance elsewhere that seems almost irrelevant. Is the S1 perhaps nearer the A1 Quattro's 256hp than Audi are letting on?

Moreover the noise is great, the four-cylinder turbo sounding far less synthesised than the both the Golf and Leon Cupra. Maybe four pipes is a good idea...

Red in lights can be deleted. Phew.
Red in lights can be deleted. Phew.
Pipe dreams
Audi is particularly proud of the S1's standard-fit variable dampers with two modes and switchable through the Drive Select system. As appears to be the VW Group way, the difference between normal and dynamic is fairly subtle; the S1 is always firm, but dynamic mode doesn't ruin the ride despite further stiffening the dampers.

Furthermore there's no crash or thump despite a short wheelbase and the firm ride, the S1 remaining composed and flat in all circumstances we could throw at it. Dynamic mode is preferable as efficiency has a horribly spongy throttle response and it also adds a little more weight to the steering over auto. Never is the steering exactly communicative, but what did you expect?

Audi's original plan for the S1 was to show off its fancy new multi-link rear axle and 4WD (up to 50 percent of the power can go back) with some ice driving. Unfortunately, this wasn't possible due to Sweden's (relatively) mild weather. What we got instead was two laps of a tiny handling circuit behind an S3 saloon pace car. Brilliant.

We're all for brightening up interiors but...
We're all for brightening up interiors but...
Handling the disappointment
What did we find out? Perhaps most encouragingly of all, ESC off really does seem to mean off. And if it doesn't, it is hugely lenient! The modified pivot bearings and revised steering means the S1 is really keen to turn in without feeling nervous; coming off the throttle will see the front tighten its line or even bring the rear round slightly if enough speed is carried.

The brakes (310mm discs at the front 272mm at the rear) are strong and don't feel quite as grabby at top of the pedal as some other VW Group models can. The winter tyres may have lent the S1 an extra level of fun, but the early impressions of the S1's handling are very positive. The sense of agility and eagerness completely belies that rather podgy kerbweight.

Though a rather old-fashioned cliche, the S1 is a proper pocket rocket. But that has its downsides too, namely in terms of space. Though this is PH and not What Car?, a hot hatch should be able to cover all the bases all the time. The S1, with its tiny boot and quite cramped rear seats, can't really. A Leon Cupra 265 SC is just £790 more than the 3-door S1 and that will tick more boxes for more people. But on sheer fun and perhaps desirability the Audi may just have it. We can't wait to try one in the UK to know for sure.


AUDI S1
Engine:
1,984cc 4-cyl turbo
Transmission: Six-speed manual, 4WD
Power (hp): 231@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 272@1,600-3,000rpm
0-62mph: 5.8 seconds (Sportback 5.9)
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Kerbweight: 1,390kg (Sportback 1,415kg)
MPG: 40.3 (NEDC combined, Sportback 39.8)
CO2: 162g/km (Sportback 166g/km)
Price: £24,900 (Sportback £25,690)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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dukebox9reg

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

149 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Only 50% to the rear? My Countryman can even shift 100% to the rear (yes I know its pig ugly etc etc)

It's a heavy little blighter ain't it (weighs the same as the 4wd Countryman and more than a TT)

The TFSI is a much better lump of an engine mind





Edited by dukebox9reg on Monday 17th March 10:07

AyBee

10,536 posts

203 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Looks great in green smile

RemyMartin

6,759 posts

206 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Looks great in three door!

Always loved the looks of the A1.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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It is amazing what can be done when you take the basics of a Skoda Fabia and then upgrade and change everything.

I really like this. I like it a lot.

Not normally an Audi fan but I could definitely imagine one of these in my life.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

135 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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dukebox9reg said:
Only 50% to the rear? My Countryman can even shift 100% to the rear (yes I know its pig ugly etc etc)

It's a heavy little blighter ain't it (weighs the same as the 4wd Countryman)

Edited by dukebox9reg on Monday 17th March 09:58
Not a full description. It can send up to 50% when the clutch is fully locked and all 4 tires have very good grip. Once any slip is registered in the front diff, proportional power goes rearward, so on acceleration and in cornering scenarios, up to 100% (though that would take an extreme scenario) of the torque can end up at the rear. It just depends on slip.

When you accelerate at low speeds your torque balance will match dynamic weight distribution, so about 60-70% torque at the rear and the rest at the front. Same deal in corners, depending on speed, road surface, weight transfer etc. In cruising at a constant speed, the car is front-biased (though never fully FWD) for fuel efficiency. Since Haldex is faster than any purely mech. system, it can easily send adequate torque to the rear at a speed that ensures that the car stays balanced and progressive. It's all quite clever really.

blackchrome917

69 posts

149 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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One for me in Kermit Green please!

dukebox9reg

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

149 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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scherzkeks said:
dukebox9reg said:
Only 50% to the rear? My Countryman can even shift 100% to the rear (yes I know its pig ugly etc etc)

It's a heavy little blighter ain't it (weighs the same as the 4wd Countryman)

Edited by dukebox9reg on Monday 17th March 09:58
Not a full description. It can send up to 50% when the clutch is fully locked and all 4 tires have very good grip. Once any slip is registered in the front diff, proportional power goes rearward, so on acceleration and in cornering scenarios, up to 100% (though that would take an extreme scenario) of the torque can end up at the rear. It just depends on slip.

When you accelerate at low speeds your torque balance will match dynamic weight distribution, so about 60-70% torque at the rear and the rest at the front. Same deal in corners, depending on speed, road surface, weight transfer etc. In cruising at a constant speed, the car is front-biased (though never fully FWD) for fuel efficiency. Since Haldex is faster than any purely mech. system, it can easily send adequate torque to the rear at a speed that ensures that the car stays balanced and progressive. It's all quite clever really.
Thanks for that. Was starting to sound like it was just basically FWD.

gofasterrosssco

1,238 posts

237 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Does absolutely nothing for me I'm afraid..

I think it looks ungainly, over-styled, is undoubtedly heavy for a car in it's class, expensive (for it's size class) and seems to be trying to be everything all at once.. The "S" prefix in Audi's of today just seems to stands for extra "Stuff".

It will probably sell well though, which is the point of course..

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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dukebox9reg said:
It's a heavy little blighter ain't it (weighs the same as the 4wd Countryman and more than a TT)




Edited by dukebox9reg on Monday 17th March 10:07
I had not noticed that. Why is it so heavy? Thats just nuts.

OilBurnerSurrey

153 posts

179 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Like the M135i etc - Id sooner have a lesser engine but better model.

£25k for 240hp isnt too shabby really. I bet its quick enough

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

135 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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toppstuff said:
I had not noticed that. Why is it so heavy? Thats just nuts.
Because (guessing here) dimensionally it is not that much smaller than the old A3 8P and probably has more equipment. Also being the brand's entry-level car, it likely does not use as many weight savings materials in the suspension and chassis as the larger cars.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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dukebox9reg said:
Only 50% to the rear? My Countryman can even shift 100% to the rear (yes I know its pig ugly etc etc)

It's a heavy little blighter ain't it (weighs the same as the 4wd Countryman and more than a TT)

The TFSI is a much better lump of an engine mind





Edited by dukebox9reg on Monday 17th March 10:07
A MINI Countryman Cooper S ALL4 weighs far far more than this!?

dukebox9reg

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

149 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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MonkeyMatt said:
dukebox9reg said:
Only 50% to the rear? My Countryman can even shift 100% to the rear (yes I know its pig ugly etc etc)

It's a heavy little blighter ain't it (weighs the same as the 4wd Countryman and more than a TT)

The TFSI is a much better lump of an engine mind





Edited by dukebox9reg on Monday 17th March 10:07
A MINI Countryman Cooper S ALL4 weighs far far more than this!?
Not at all base kerb weight of the All4 Countryman Cooper S is 1380kg. My auto 1450kg

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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dukebox9reg said:
MonkeyMatt said:
dukebox9reg said:
Only 50% to the rear? My Countryman can even shift 100% to the rear (yes I know its pig ugly etc etc)

It's a heavy little blighter ain't it (weighs the same as the 4wd Countryman and more than a TT)

The TFSI is a much better lump of an engine mind





Edited by dukebox9reg on Monday 17th March 10:07
A MINI Countryman Cooper S ALL4 weighs far far more than this!?
Not at all base kerb weight of the All4 Countryman Cooper S is 1380kg. My auto 1450kg
ahh! I was comparing 3dr Audi with auto coutryman

Terminator X

15,107 posts

205 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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£25k eek probably a cracking 2nd hand buy but wtf buys these cars new in the first place?!

TX.

dukebox9reg

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

149 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Terminator X said:
£25k eek probably a cracking 2nd hand buy but wtf buys these cars new in the first place?!

TX.
Lol someone has to buy it in the first place so you have one to buy 2nd hand.........

Terminator X

15,107 posts

205 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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dukebox9reg said:
Terminator X said:
£25k eek probably a cracking 2nd hand buy but wtf buys these cars new in the first place?!

TX.
Lol someone has to buy it in the first place so you have one to buy 2nd hand.........
I know wink just wondering who on earth will spunk that much money in the first place for the smallest car that they make albeit a sporty version. It's not even a V8 FFS!

TX.

daytona111r

773 posts

205 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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1.4 tonnes ??!

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Terminator X said:
£25k eek probably a cracking 2nd hand buy but wtf buys these cars new in the first place?!

TX.
25k is a bargain! look at how much cars like Escort Cosworths, Delta Intergrales or the original Audi S3 where over 10-15 years ago. They would be over £40k now

PHMatt

608 posts

149 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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I can't get my head around the weight of that little thing.
Is it made from granite?